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Customer review from the Amazon Vine Program I just received this Krups Espresseria automatic machine. I have a Jura ENA 4 at my work so I will try to make some comparisons to them. The Jura is about the same price and they both have very similar features. I was so excited when I found out I would be receiving this Krups machine so that I can make my cappuccino at home too! I am a coffee fool so I make alot. With winter coming up this will be well used. Ok I have been using the Jura for some time at my work and it has been a very nice machine and is easy to setup, clean, and use. The Krups is no exception here as it is very easy to setup. Just fill the water container, bean hopper, set language, ML or OZ for liquid measurement, water hardness and ready to go. I use beans I buy here on Amazon. They are eight Oclock brand 50 % decaf. I chose the fine grind setting and brewed my first Cappuccio in less than a minute and the froth was superb. The coffee taste and strength is every bit as good as the Jura maybe alittle stronger with the Krups. I like that the machine is fully programable for different fill levels of coffee. You can fill one or two cups at a time. The nozzle height can be adjusted for taller cups but will not accommodate tall cups without sliding the drip tray out. The Jura can accommodate tall glasses no problem. The steam wand worked very well with no mess and produced a very nice froth and is fully adjustable for many positions. I really liked the spill tray as it has a float in it that rises to let you know when it is full. The Jura does not have this. Both machines come with a water filter to help reduce the bad flavors and reduce machine descaling frequency. The both come with a starter pack of cleaning tablets. As with any coffee espresso machine it will need cleaning to keep the flavor and machine working properly. It looks like the Krups requires less frequent cleaning. Both the frothing nozzles need cleaning frequently. All in all this is a very nice machine that will see alot of use. Oh yeah I was kind of surprised when I opened the box and noticed a small amount of coffee grinds in the machine. I called Krups customer service and was promptly advised that the machines grinders are tested during the assembly. I found no mention of this in the owners info so I was surprised but it is very nice to know that the machines are quality tested before shipping them out. Oh I should note that Jura does mention in there instructions that small traces of coffee grinds may be found in there machines for the same reason. Well I will try to make some comparisons now.
The Krups you can only use whole beans and no preground coffee.
The Jura has a bypass doser that allows you to use preground coffee.
The Jura does not come with a milk container and must be bought separately for about 80-100 dollars.
The Krups does come with its own stainless steel milk container even though it is not mentioned or shown in any of the pictures. I was really hoping it did come with it. Yeah!!
The Krups is made in France and not Mexico or China.
The Jura has a removable bean container.
The Krups does not have a removable bean container so no quick swapout of beans. Must run them all trough machine.
They both hold about the same amount of old grind cakes at 14.
The Jura needs to be cleaned every 180 cycles.
The Krups needs to be cleaned every 360 cycles. Big plus here!
The Jura takes about 44 minutes on the cleaning cycle.
The Krups take about 22 minutes on the cleaning cycle.
Both have an energy saving mode that is programable.
Both can be changed from ML to Oz for fluid measurement.
Both Krups and Jura come with a 2 year or 6000 cup warranty.
My likes about the Krups are slightly stronger coffee than the Jura.
Less frequent cleaning demands with the Krups.
Krups comes with its own Stainless milk container so you can fill it and put back in fridge when not using. The Jura you must purchase the milk container for 8-100 dollars.
Krups has a drip tray float to remind you when it needs cleaning out.
The Krups costumer service department was very quick and responsive when I called them. Oh yeah and they were all American so I could understand them.
The Krups has a better look for a home than does the Jura in my opinion.
I like being able to see how full the bean container is on the Krups without looking down in it unlike the Jura.
My dislikes abouth the Krups are no removable bean container. So when you want to change coffee beans to another brand you must cycle them through where as the Jura you can remove the bean container and empty it out.
Cannot use preground coffee as an option where as you can on the Jura.
The Krups nozzle does not raise as high as I would like to accommodate taller cups but can if you slide the drip tray out first.
So bottom line would I recommend the Krups Espresseria machine??? Yes I defiantly would!!!
UPDATE:
Ok so I have been using it for some time now and love it more than ever!! My wife too!! When just making a good old fashioned coffee the creama is so rich and yummy. I love it. I am still experimenting with all the minor adjustments you can make to custom tailor it but so far I like the grind set on very fine for a very robust flavor but not bitter at all. I am also loving the included milk container for the milk froth. It is very nice to be able to just fill it, use it, then put back in the fridge when done. Jura makes you pay extra for there milk container so nice job Krups!! Well just wanted to give an update as to how things are going here. Thanks
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Customer review from the Amazon Vine Program We're a 2-3 cup a day coffee household. This doesn't include all of the weekly trips to the coffee shop while at work for more specialized drinks. Prior to getting this espresso maker we simply brewed flavored coffee at home with cheap and disposable coffee makers. We were of course overjoyed to welcome the Krups EA8250001 Espresseria Full Automatic Espresso and coffee Machine into our kitchen. Here are my thoughts;
Pros
+ All in one unit. Stores, grinds, brews and disposes of your coffee. No outside water lines needed.
+ Stainless Steel milk frothing bottle provided. Very nice!
+ Auto clean/rinse cycle. Only needs complete cleaning once every 360 cycles!
+ Modern and sleek black look. Also, very compact in size for an espresso machine.
+ Easy to use digital interface and quick set up.
+ Water proof service guide stored inside a side slot of the machine.
+ Steamer nozzle also dispenses hot water for tea/hot chocolate drinkers.
+ Extremely quick brew time. Less than 2 minutes.
+ Energy efficient and has an auto-off timer.
+ Made in France (not Taiwan or China like many products today).
+ 2 year or 6,000 cup warrantee.
+ Machine alerts you on all cleaning/replacement functions.
+ Tool provided for easy installation of the unit's water filter. Especially useful if you have larger hands.
Cons
Incredibly expensive.
Milk frothing bottle and attachments are a bit cumbersome to use and clean.
Water filters are $18-20 each and need to be replaced every two months.
Unable to use flavored or pre-ground coffee. There's no bypass chamber to change beans. Once your coffee is in the machine it's in there until you use it.
Frother is rather rigid and has limited flexibility. It's also difficult to use on a countertop, especially with larger mugs. You need to have it on the counter edge to even get a larger cup out.
Can be rather noisey, especially early in the morning. Water tank can rattle quite a bit when brewing the coffee.
Clock display doesn't stay on when you're not using the machine.
Water dispenser tray platform is a bit small and while the coffee nozzles do raise, it's not really enough for larger coffee mugs.
Some crucial pieces of the machine are plastic (coffee nozzles, parts of the frother etc.). I would prefer them to be metal as the plastic feels like it could crack from the heat.
The Krups EA8250001 Espresseria Full Automatic Espresso and coffee Machine is something most people would never buy but would love to receive it as a gift. I'm sure there are many of these machines on wedding registries from couples with crossed fingers. For the price this machine should definitely be considered an investment. Spending this much on an espresso machine is difficult to justify. However, if you can afford the purchase price it definitely does what it's supposed to. I can absolutely say that I'm the envy of all my coffee drinking coworkers and friends. I know our household will get many years of use out of it.
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This could seriously be the best thing I have ever purchased. It is expensive, but man, it is great to wake up and push 3 different buttons a total of 5 different times and have an excellent cup of cappuccino. It could not be easier. Set up is a breeze. The machine tells you when you need water or a new filter. You can see the coffee beans. There is no mess to clean up. When it is time to empty the spent grounds (about every 10-15 cups) a message comes on, you pull out a side drawer, dump it in the trash, empty and rinse the water tray and ... voila.
We bought this assuming that it would not replace our regular drip coffee maker. But we completely stopped using the coffee maker and instead have cappuccino or cafe creme every day. The automatic cappuccino foamer is really quite clever and easy to clean. We have found that you need milk fat to make a decent foam so use whole milk or add a little 1/2 n 1/2 to whatever reduced fat milk you use and it will make a good foam. It takes a few experiments to see how long you need to let the steam run to get the right amount of milk foam to mix with the strong espresso. We have finally landed on 15 seconds. The machine always comes back to whatever setting you used last, so once you get a setting you like you can pretty much just push a few buttons and your coffee is ready in less than 2 minutes from the time you power up the machine.
It pays to experiment with beans also. We use a mix of 1/2 decaf cafe Britt which is nice and dark and adds an earthy flavor, and 1/2 regular caf Lavazza Super Crema because that seemed to be a consensus good espresso bean. The Lavazza is a medium roast. So now we have the coffee we like, and cappuccinos better than any we can get in a restaurant or coffee shop (always way way too much milk). I am confident we would never use a manual machine. My hats off to people who do. If you are like me and want a great espresso, cappuccino or cafe noisette every day, you will love this machine
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This is the best super automatic espresso machine out there based on my own, super-nerdy formula: "(rich flavor * ease of use) / cost." Dorky, yes, but you're talking to someone who came up with decisionking.com and previously has used a one-touch Tassimo machine in USA, one-touch Philips machine in Spain, and a few other cheap espresso machines including the manual kind. I am a resident of Spain and a US citizen, so I appreciate a good european style "cafe con leche."
The advantages of this Krups machine are that: 1) it's the most compact machine, 2) it's very simple to operate 3) it has the lowest cost of the different super automatic brands (as of 10-26-2011), 4) and it can use oily beans unlike the other different brands of machines. 5) Also, it runs the longest between cleaning cycles (360 cycles) compared to the other brands. The resulting coffee is, of course, rich and smooth and full of flavor. That being said, it is important to note that coffee flavor seems to be more related to the quality/freshness of coffee beans used rather than the machine itself.
The disadvantages of this Krups machine are its high cost (relative to my cheap coffee machines before) and no bypass doser. But both of these disadvantages are minimal especially when you compare the Krups cost to the other super automatic espresso machines. On the other hand, a bypass doser is important for that quick decaf, one would want to make for late night after dinner.
Bottom line is: I'd give this device 4.5 stars since it does not have the bypass doser. But if you want an easy to use, minimal maintenance, one-touch espresso machine, that is compact and costs the least of the super automatics then I think this Krups is the machine you want to invest in.
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Customer review from the Amazon Vine Program First of all when you get this espresso maker it is intimidating. Fortunately it is smarter than you are.
Sitting here sipping my cappuccino while writing this review, I would have to say, using this device and clean up after using it, is wonderful. Having owned simpler less expensive Espresso makers, I would have to say this is the simplest to use of the bunch.
USER'S MANUAL IS SCARY
I brought the user's manual to work to show a co-worker and they laughed at my trepidation around this device. The user's manual is scary, the device is not. There are only 20 pages in English, but since it is a multi-lingual user's manual, you get the impression of a tome as it is 60 pages to include 2 more languages. It looks like a lot of steps, but it isn't.
SETUP
This machine has you check your waters hardness (it provides the means to do this as well) and program this into the coffee maker. If you have a filter install this goes in first. When you first turn on the system it has a lot of questions, date, time, etc. Simple enough. They then suggest you prime the filter and then do a rinse of the system before your initial use as well. All really simple. Add coffee beans choose your coffee type and then you are in business. It really was that simple. I keep repeating that word because, quite frankly as intimidating as the user's guide the coffee maker itself was not.
NOISE
Wow, is this thing noisy. Between the grinding and the steam sound, and clunks closing this valve and that, this makes a racket. It startled me a few time. Having previously had an espresso machine, I was somewhat prepared, but the grinding and automatic aspect of the espresso dispensing, were new to me.
WELL HOW WAS THE COFFEE
So much of this is subjective. I read that you don't want an oily coffee or one with any flavoring and a colleague suggested donut house blend rather than an espresso blend, so this is what I chose for my first few cups. I thought the Espresso was a bit sour, the long coffee was pretty good and the Cappuccino spectacular. I need to experiment a bit more. But, hey, this was my first bit of coffee and I used another person's recommendation.
AUTO CAPPUCCINO MAKER
This was included with the coffee maker I got... I'm in love. I never cared for holding a metal cup under the frother of previous machines, so I dove at this. Took me a minute to figure out how to hook it up. Mind you, I had not taken everything out of the box and did not see the connector hose, so that wasn't the device's fault. However once hooked up, this device performed seemlessly and I ended up with perfectly frothed milk in my cup and topped that off with some Espresso. MMMMMMMMMM. The manual then suggests running a steam cycle after, so then all you really need to clean thoroughly is the container that held the milk.
AFTER A WEEKS USAGE:
I have used this every day this week, alternating through all the coffee types. Mostly Long coffees and Cappuccinos. Imagine making a Cappuccino on a rushed work day morning. It was so easy I had to.
A few times the machine prompted a rinse cycle for it's own maintenance and let me know when I needed more water. The coffee beans you can see, so I never ran out of those. Easy to add too. You just pour them in. I had to empty the water tray and the coffee grounds when prompted. Simple easy and only a few times after about 5 uses.
To compare this with my previous machines, I don't even handle the coffee, except to pour beans in the top, and then empty the nearly dry grounds when the machine prompts me. I just pull out the drawer and flip over in the trash. There is no measuring, no rinsing of little hot parts.
For the Cappuccino maker. I pour milk in the container, put the lid on and hook this equipment up to the steam line. I put my cup under it, wait for it to heat up and then with no interaction from me, other than to push the button, it fills my cup with frothy hot milk. I then, put the up under the other nozzles and tell it to put two shots of espresso in it. After that, while I'm drinking my Cappuccino, I run the steam cycle on the Cappuccino maker, clean out the milk holder and I'm done. I think it is more work to get one from a barista!
UPDATE AFTER 1 MONTH OF USAGE:
Though I have a Keurig and a regular coffee maker besides, this coffee maker is used for my daily coffee. That tells you, I really like it. I alternate between long coffees, cappuccinos and espressos. Only when I want a flavored coffee, do I opt for the Keurig these days. The rich flavor of the long coffees and the crema have me preferring what this machine can do.
I like the fact the machine prompts you to empty the coffee discard drawer and the water trough, as well as filling the water reservoir. It can do this mid cycle with apparently no harm. I'm still experimenting with what type of coffee I like best however. I had used a friend's recommendation to start and I'm working through the various coffee roasts to find what works best for me.
Even though with one month of use I have not yet been prompted to do a major cleaning routine. I should look into a new water filter, but I understand using one is not mandatory. Will update again, once a major cleaning is needed.
